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I've never been affronted by the idea of
extraterrestrial intelligence.

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I've come to be affronted by anything
which can be

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symbolized by initials.

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So I think CIA, MI5,

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EAT. T, UFO, is offensive.

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I mean, it produces a knee -jerk
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So I'm not interested in ETs or UFOs. I
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civilizations who are not based on
planet Earth.

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I think we are being taught, perhaps,

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One lesson which is that there exist

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tangibly other

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prodigious consciousnesses and
intelligences and that now

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they seem to be interested tangibly,

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materially, in making contact with us.

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It's July 1983.

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I'm traveling between government offices
near Winchester and Hampshire, England.

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And I came out of some trees and I
looked to the left. There's a beautiful

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amphitheater there.

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And I sort of took a second look. You
know, I was like, what?

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What's that? And below the hill were
five circles forming a cross.

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This was cold out of nowhere.

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It was me on my way to a meeting with
this problem or that problem to think

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about, looking, seeing, and wondering,
what in the world

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is this?

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I didn't know what to expect, and I
could see no tracks in the field.

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So I went quietly, made my way towards
the nearest of the five circles, and it

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was the... pristine appearance on it
that so impressed me.

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The whole impression I got from really
never, obviously I haven't seen anything

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like it before, was that it really
hadn't been there that long, because the

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plants were moving, you know, and I
could hear and watch the occasional one

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pop, head would pop up, separating
themselves from where they'd been

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What I was looking at, looked as if it
was laid down in one head.

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It looked, in a way, so natural.

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The plants were beautifully bent over
and swirled around.

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There were no marks.

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I looked for the obvious places. Now, if
somebody made this, well, OK, maybe

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somebody made this.

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So I go to where people would have had
to have stood, in the centre.

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And I'm looking very carefully. I'm
looking at these small modules of dried

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soil. looking underneath, and they were
still dried and not crumbled. Under my

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own foot, I pick my foot up and I look,
and it's powder.

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And yet here in the centre, it's not.

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I went and found the farmer, who was not
particularly happy to see me.

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He was...

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Eventually, forthcoming information, he
was telling me they'd had them for

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years.

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This was not a random event.

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This was not just a five circles in this
one field.

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So I go, and I speak to this guy, and I
speak to this guy, and clearly, this is

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widespread.

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somebody told me of somebody else who'd
been inquiring, and this was Pat

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Delgado, and he had been talking to a Dr
Terence Meaden, a meteorologist in

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Wiltshire, because Meaden was also
investigating circles of the same kind,

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patterns, in his county.

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And so the three of us came together.

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We very quickly became aware of a light
aircraft pilot.

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This was Busty Taylor.

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In 1986, I met Cole Andrews, and we were
all together checking into the crop

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circles.

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Sometimes we were in a circle an hour,
two hours, from the actual moment of

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discovery, we were there.

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You're still feeling the excitement from
the farmer. I mean, he's, you know,

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he's just gone home, made a phone call
to us, come back out, he's still out of

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breath, you know, and this is exactly as
he found it.

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So the single track in there now is
yours last night.

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Now I'm listening. I'm looking at a
farmer who's not knowing where to go

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this. Very excited. It's like, have you
seen it? You know, I mean, how many more

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have you seen of these? Where have you
seen them? Are they the same as mine? I

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mean, do they appear in this sort of
crop? You know, are they close to water?

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Mine's near this pond. Are the others?

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This guy's, you know, he's buzzing.

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And we would go out there with farmer's
permission, and we had a real field day,

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and we really learnt a lot in those
early days.

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And we really found out some interesting
lays and patterns.

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See the clockwise outer band here, outer
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About a third of this is hidden
underneath this flare here.

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Then you have tightening, a tightening
clockwise swirling pattern at this

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counterclockwise here at this point, and
clockwise centre.

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Absolutely incredible.

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Very, very pretty.

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Wherever possible, photographs from
above before anybody walked in it.

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That was a report.

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From the report, we would be able to
say, farmer discovered it. He walked

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There's his track. Is that right? Yes,
it is.

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We can account for that.

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What we would then do is that we would
get magnetic north on a compass, and we

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would take magnetic north as our first
radius to the edge of the circle, and

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then break it up every 45 degrees.

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We would see whether we had an ovoid or
a circle.

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Crop circles were regarded as a subject
of legitimate scientific interest and at

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least 99 % of the people who were around
the crop circles, looking at the crop

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circles, that's including journalists,
scientists and people, regarded this as

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genuine phenomenon.

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There was no suggestion at that time
that this could possibly be a man -made

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hoax of elaborate proportions.

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And there were scientists, they were out
there with all sorts of equipment.

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They had cameras, they had radar, they
had other measuring devices,

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magnetometers, they had radiation
detectors.

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Goodness knows what.

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I'll take the center one of the three.
Okay. Yeah.

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As you can see, this is a complete
straight one.

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Yes.

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That's the angle of the crop.

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This is the type of bends that was in
this. This is like a cabbage plant, but

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you can see, it's a 90 -degree bend.

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And if you can imagine, that was in the
ground, and there's just enough room for

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the leaves and everything else to be on
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Plant samples, I think the first ones in
the year that I started, Pat Delgado

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sent the first plant samples to Dr.
Levengood, the biophysicist here in

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Michigan. Can you tell me a little bit
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He had been at the University of
Michigan as a research scientist.

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Then he went into industry and for a
good many years worked in industry.

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Then, as soon as he could, I think, he
built his own lab at home because he had

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lots of personal interests that he
wanted to pursue.

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And he and Pat made these arrangements
to get some samples sent to him. He

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wanted to see what he could see in the
plant.

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And so we started testing crop circles
all over the world.

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By now, I think at least 350, maybe it's
400, that we have sampled in eight

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different countries, eight or nine now,
including Australia, Israel, Canada,

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the United States, Germany, the
Netherlands, England.

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We've done multiple circles.

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in multiple different crops over 10
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And what Levengood documented
beautifully were the basic changes in

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that, in his opinion, were not caused by
fungus, were not caused by pesticides,

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were not caused by unusual fertilizer
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damage, caused by something else.

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Before 1990, we had circles, but circles
in large quantities. It may be multiple

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circles, may be circles with rings
around them, circles with a lot of

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grape shot, or little circles scattered
around, this sort of thing.

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They evolved from a simple circle, a
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It was intriguing, to say the least,
that it started initially circle with a

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single ring, then a double ring, then we
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neighbour, and that neighbour was half
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were.

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Those appeared all over the south of
England, and then there were three.

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Now, two neighbours, both half the size
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line.

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Now... That was doubled at 90 degrees.

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So then we have four forming a Celtic
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Unconnected satellites, but a
traditional Celtic cross.

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There were unmistakable signs of
intelligent origin in the club circles.

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couldn't deny this. Say it was some kind
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meteorological or caused by some
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just did not square up with what I saw,
which consistently showed signs of

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intelligence.

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The geometric shapes, the patterns, the
things of this kind could not possibly

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have been made by some mindless
phenomenon like

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a vortex or a dust devil or some kind of
whirlwind. It was simply out of the

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question.

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I suppose the bottom line is we are
looking at bent plants, but bent plants

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uniformly forming a structure, a
geometry.

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It's precise. It's intelligently
located.

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There is nothing random about the
placement.

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They are purposefully placed.

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Some of them have this very complex
energy print.

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Nowadays they're all just swirled. These
ones are very, very, very interesting

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because they've got this sort of energy
pattern.

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I always liked studying those ones
because they're almost impossible.

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In those days I was wondering whether
they were made by people and things like

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this are almost impossible to hoax.

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These aren't just arbitrarily placed as
circles. There's a certain magical way

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in which they've been laid out.

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If you were to graphically present it as
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hexagonal grid or triangular grid,
standard triangular grid, and here are

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three edge alignments, one going up
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there. So the line just flipping through
circles, and I call those tangents,

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which is what they're doing. It's one
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I was really struck immediately by the
precision of the thing, and as far as I

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was concerned, it helped to explain.

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the beauty of it, just as a graphic.

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So the only way to do this really is to
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Yeah. The chances of it being accidental
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occurring... Well, you could say maybe
natural, but certainly not from drunken

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farmers.

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For me, the crop circle phenomenon
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my first Celtic five, which was about...

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four miles from where we are now.

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I went to all the museums, the London
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everything I could find in regards to
Celtic symbolism.

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And from 1985 to 1989, all the symbols
I'd photographed up to then

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appeared in the crops.

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I was flying with Busty.

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And he said to me over a place in
Hampshire, you know, it wouldn't be

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something to see all of the patterns
we've seen before all overlaid into one

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intricate design.

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And the very next day, that formation
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said the words.

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That one was the Celtic Five with a ring
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The formation is absolutely huge.

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In front of the harvester now is the
centre of a circle, and it is absolutely

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enormous, very much larger than any of
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we've seen before.

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And here we come up to the first circle,
which is formed on the annular

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ring.

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The heads of the plants on this side lie
over the top of the plants flattened

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during the formation of the annular
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This is definitely genuine.

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I think we've got a number one again,
the first of its kind.

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So it was the two combinations put
together then. Of course, when you check

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Celtic symbols, it's there.

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This was the formation that appears on
the cover of Colin Andrews' book,

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Circular Evidence. It was the first
really famous crop circle.

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The crop circle got imprinted in most
people's minds at the very early stages

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the phenomenon, and it was simply a
beautiful Celtic cross.

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It was very interesting that if you drew
a pentagram on the outer circle, just

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hang it in there, it closes a central
space that is the size of.

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the central element.

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And if you repeat that procedure, you
take the central element and hang a

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pentagram inside it and fill that space
with a circle. That circle there is the

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size of these four satellites.

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So you've got the same proportion
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which is one of the reasons, I think,
why it is very pleasing. There's all

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stuff going on, which is always the case
in good design and good sacred art.

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And the interesting thing was that it
was, sitting on top of an underground

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reservoir.

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And this is another thing that we have
noticed with the tree phenomenon, that

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seems to locate where there's water,
very close to water.

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It's something like 93 to 98 percent of
the formations do in fact occur over

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this chalk and or green sand aquifer.

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As the summer comes on and there's less
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aquifer recedes.

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and as it does it sinks down lower as
the edges of it recede you get a strong

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electrical charge set up in the ground
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chalk creates this charge as the summer
goes along you see the charge increases

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the lower the aquifer is the farther the
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the greater the electrical charge well
guess what the numbers of crop circles

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cluster along the edges of the aquifer
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Then one of the questions that comes up
all the time is why don't they occur

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everywhere? Well, we don't know yet why
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answer.

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Originally, all of the land here was
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And then about 7 ,000 years ago, people
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And it was really the heart of England.
It was the beginning of farming.

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And there was a huge community,
actually, able to live here.

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All of this landscape was worshipped as
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And it was also laid out in what we
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The place of the north would be
associated with winter and

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place in the east would be sunrise and
new beginnings.

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In recent years, archaeologists have
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site ever found in Britain.

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On your farm? On Golden Bald Hill, which
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Much older than anything that's ever
been found before, probably by at least

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,000 years. And what was the nature of
it? Well, a habitation site, and people

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lived there, possibly dating back to 6
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In this area, you'll see carved on the
hillside a lot of white horses.

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And the white horse is the symbol of
Britain, Albion.

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And it's the carrier of the soul to the
other world.

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A lot were done in the last century.

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When they dug into the hillsides, in
many cases they found the ancient, the

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horses.

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There is remaining one big white horse
at Uffington, which has now been proved

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to go back to at least 2500 BC.

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They were meant to be seen by the gods.

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They were meant to be seen from above.

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I think this has always been an ancient
sacred site and an important place.

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Ah, and of course this makes such sense
in terms of the whole crop circle

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phenomenon. Why is it in England? People
always say, well, why do they have all

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the best formations in England? What's
that all about? And this is the story.

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The English landscape is loaded with all
kinds of... We have phenomenal sacred

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landscapes.

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I strongly believe that man came here,
probably from all over the world even,

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thousands of years ago and worshipped
here and built Avebury and Silbury.

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Silbury Hill is right in front of us,
known as the Hill of the Shining Beings.

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This is a very, very ancient and the
largest man -made mound certainly in

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Europe. And yet, there have been nearly
every season in the days you could climb

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Filbury, you could see in the height of
the season at least half a dozen

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formations within actual sight of
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In 1990, a whole new event happened when
we got the linear effect, because we

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got the shaft, which joined the two
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They were something we'd just never seen
before.

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sheer wonder and magic and excitement
was almost too much to bear.

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In 1990, we had the very first
pictograph.

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We thought they were all like that.

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It turned out we had the first boxes,
the first tees.

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Prior to that, they'd always been... It
was that

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amazing Alton Barnes pictogram, which
stretched out in the landscape 365

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foot of it.

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And it was unheard of. We'd never had
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But not only just one, there were three
of them in the area, which had all

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occurred almost the same night.

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And the interesting thing was that they
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additions to them, little sort of spokes
coming off them, which scholars of the

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arcane likened to astronomical symbols,
Celtic symbols, and it brought in

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people from all different disciplines,
and suddenly everybody was talking

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together.

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You got the Francis starting to talk to
the metaphysicist.

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How many people do you think came
through?

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Thanks.

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Sort of carnival atmosphere.

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Total strangers.

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Stood together in groups, chatting away
about, gosh, you know, what God did.

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See, I love these.

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Look at that.

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That is a piece of history. Look at
that.

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That's the first ever time that a crop
circle...

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created shapes, actual breaks in the
crop.

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Oh, really?

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And that's a hand -drawn survey of that.

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This is someone that's just gone in and
said, what is this? I don't know what it

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is, but I want to measure it.

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And, you know, within two days of it
appearing, Mr. Someone -or -other has

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in, left his car at the road, gone down,
his wife sat down and gone, wow.

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And he's gone, I've got to go back to
the car and get a pen. I want to measure

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this. And then they go back and they
measure it.

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It's what Colin and Pat were doing as
well, starting to measure them.

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In those days, it was evolving very,
very fast. It seemed to be accelerating

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an extraordinarily, extraordinarily
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I hired a helicopter and I got there
when it was really quite fresh and it

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just totally amazing. But it did seem to
be part of what we

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suddenly called the genuine phenomenon.

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This is an alchemical symbol and they've
interpreted the various

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symbols on the corners as being

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I pray it's philosophical or mystical
symbols.

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Quite complex.

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You think it's got a basic three -fold
geometry, but it hasn't. You also think

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those edges are straight. They're not.

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So let's have a look.

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Superimposed on it is a perfect
triangle.

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If you hang a perfect triangle
orientated north, that one there is due

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from the middle.

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So if we go 120 degrees west from that
line there, it would have been a bit

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further north if it had been on a true
triangular geometry.

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Then you can see the difference between
where it actually is placed and the

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ideal 120 degree triangular geometry
creates a little circle.

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That little circle in itself is exactly
the size of the circle that appears over

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here on this part that is precisely 120
degrees around that way.

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Every detail of these things, when you
start looking at them, is so carefully

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thought through and precise that it
really is mysterious.

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From the centre, there's an obvious
outer radius defined to there and there.

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Encircle the whole figure, hang a
pentagram in it, the arms cross to

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size of the central element, put another
pentagram in it, the arms cross to

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define the size of the central element.

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And furthermore, if we point the
pentagram due east, we exactly pick up

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arm.

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Pentagrams pointing due east is the
standard way you orientate a pentagram

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the landscape if you're building a
sacred temple.

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And then at a stone circle down the
road, an ancient stone circle, you find

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same use of a pentagram pointing east.

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It was exactly the same use of geometry.

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It was very interesting that the crop
circles were...

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giving me clues that were really feeding
my research into stone circles.

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So we wonder what came first.

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Did there appear in the land, in the
original crops, these circles?

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And did they mark these places with
stone to hold the energy there?

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The ancients had geometry as a scheme of
operating.

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as a way, a channel between themselves
and the higher domain.

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Stone circles have been there for 5 ,000
years.

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It's endured.

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They're made of 50, 60 ton stones, some
of them.

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And they've been there for 5 ,000 years.
And they're geometrical.

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And the crop circles are there for two
or three weeks.

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And they're also geometric.

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And so although you would think that
they're not related, they're not related

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time, and they're not related in terms
of their endurance,

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They are giving, if you like, a message.

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Math is a universal language, and
geometry is a way of speaking certain

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And we must therefore assume that one of
the most powerful tools to understand

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the message is to assume there might be
a message and learn how we must

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understand geometry in order to receive
that message.

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In order to fully grasp what's going on
here, you have to study geometry.

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Geometry is the organization of space
within which all objects happen.

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So every object has a relationship to
some geometric principle?

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Yeah, every object is geometrical. It's
got all the natural world has

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geometry built right into its very
structure.

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The principle of sacred geometry is...
People who study sacred geometry believe

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that sacred geometry embodies the notion
that all of nature is organized

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geometrically, whether it's the natural
world or the unseen dimensions.

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The symbols that we see in sacred
geometry are used in churches or in

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paintings or in the occult world.

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all have their derivation from some
geometric organization of the

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subconscious or the unconscious mind.

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Yes, I don't call it sacred geometry
because I call it symbolic geometry or

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geometry with meaning.

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I mean, it is sacred because it's
eternal, which is what sacred means.

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The circle is the fundamental symbol of
humanity

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on Earth.

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It has the most widespread symbolic
meaning culturally.

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If you're looking for a two -dimensional
form which has unity, it's

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the circle. There's nothing else.

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Scholars and philosophers in different
ages have perceived this as

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not the most appropriate, but the only
possible symbol of God

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and divinity and heaven.

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At times of great need, the gods
sometimes, historically, will

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man. And the medium through which they
do that is always traditionally Mercury.

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Mercury is the messenger of the gods.

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And the Hermetic arts and Hermetic
traditions have specific fingerprints,

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them being the pentagram.

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So the pentagram is the star, right?

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It's always used by wizards and witches.

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you may say nowadays how can we express
that and you can express it by saying

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that all the ratios of the pentagram are
golden ratios and the divine proportion

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is the most special or golden ratio is
the most special proportion of all

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because as the part is to the whole so
the larger part is to the smaller part

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the small thing to this is the same as
this

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to the whole thing

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The proportion of the small to the large
is the same as the large to the whole.

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That's right. And even here, it's the
same.

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If you follow this process of increasing
the five -fold stars, this and

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this is the same as this to this, or as
this to the whole.

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The genuine crop circles look so
harmonic. They include harmonies.

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which can be found in ourselves.

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If we talk about the golden section,
your whole body is the golden section.

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The length of the bones to each other
are always everywhere in the golden

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section. So, golden section is
everywhere.

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And so it's also in you and it's also in
your mind. And if you see something

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which is proportioned in the golden
section or the golden mean, you feel a

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familiarity with it. And of course you
are, because it's all over in you. And

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you are living,

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example of the golden section.

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Even though we would find geometries in
nature, like in the petals of

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a flower, for example, these geometries
that we were seeing as early as 1991

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were expressing theorems that were not
induced with geometry.

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So this implied not just intentional
design, but very creative.

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intentional design in terms of geometry.

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And that then created the possibility of
it being truly another, some other

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intelligence, very intelligent, creating
these circles with these geometries and

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doing something new.

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As a school maths teacher, what pulled
me into it is that nobody's ever seen

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these designs before or thought of them.

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They're not just brought out of old
books, you know.

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It's not just sacred geometry from old
temples, it really isn't.

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Four circles will have ancient
symbology, they will have advanced

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the same symbol.

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When we really follow this closely, we
can see that there is a train of thought

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coming through, and there are many
strands of symbols, and it's very

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very eloquent.

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To start with, they were just purely
circular.

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Then we got into the linear aspect.

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Then one year we had infectograms.

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The year of the infectograms.

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Then we had the year of the curly men.

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Oh, that's a lovely year.

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Then we had the year which is very
organic where we started getting the

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scorpions and the bees That

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was a brilliant year that brought in
tremendous

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symbology

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Then we started getting the fractals.

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That was exciting.

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We then got much more into the math, the
geometry.

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That was the beginning of the really
serious geometry of the fractal images.

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Well, we've got the Koch fractal here.
You can actually calculate it

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mathematically. The Koch fractal is
basically a line.

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You divide the line by putting a point
in it and basically stretch it out, so

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you basically get a triangle on a
straight line.

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The thing with fractals is basically
because it's recursive, you're dividing

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each line into two iterations.

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So if I redraw it, you can see each line
is basically a miniature version of

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what was the previous one, and that's
where you can see the Koch circles come

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into it.

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And obviously if you went to three
iterations, redraw it, each one of those

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turn divides.

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So of course you can go on infinitely
with a practical.

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In 1996, we had the Julius set appear
very close to Stonehenge.

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Now, my friend Rod Taylor, who's a
pilot, was flying with a friend from

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00:40:59,220 --> 00:41:05,640
back to Thruxton, which is where we are
now, and they circled around

457
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,380
Stonehenge, and my friend Rod Taylor was
taking photographs of the pilot.

458
00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:16,120
Well, they left Stonehenge, came here,
Rod got out.

459
00:41:16,670 --> 00:41:21,250
The pilot got back in after being
refuelled and flew back down towards

460
00:41:21,250 --> 00:41:27,890
and then noticed this formation next
door to Stonehenge. Now, they sort of

461
00:41:27,890 --> 00:41:31,530
worked it out. The time lapse between
when they were there to get here,

462
00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:35,410
refuelled, back in the plane, back, was
about 25 minutes.

463
00:41:37,150 --> 00:41:41,810
And they swear blind that that formation
was not there when they were circling

464
00:41:41,810 --> 00:41:43,250
around Stonehenge at the time.

465
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:52,880
So we've got a 25 -minute gap where 140
circles appeared at

466
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:58,220
Stonehenge, rather mysteriously, and
really we haven't got to the bottom of

467
00:41:58,220 --> 00:41:59,220
one yet.

468
00:42:02,380 --> 00:42:07,200
This is indeed the queue to the, right
the way up to this crop circle.

469
00:42:07,420 --> 00:42:08,660
It's absolutely extraordinary.

470
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:11,760
Stonehenge is just there.

471
00:42:13,710 --> 00:42:15,910
And the crop circle's on the left -hand
side.

472
00:42:18,050 --> 00:42:19,390
And here's the sign.

473
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:22,790
Come see Europe's best crop circle.

474
00:42:24,350 --> 00:42:26,410
The farmer's decided to open his field.

475
00:42:27,130 --> 00:42:31,170
Yesterday I spoke to him and he was
wanting to keep people out and was very

476
00:42:31,170 --> 00:42:32,550
angry about its arrival.

477
00:42:33,170 --> 00:42:37,650
Now it would appear that he's thought
things through and can see that he's

478
00:42:37,650 --> 00:42:41,930
to compensate for the damage by charging
£3 a head to enter.

479
00:42:42,650 --> 00:42:44,550
And now we have this problem.

480
00:42:48,030 --> 00:42:49,030
Thanks a lot.

481
00:42:50,010 --> 00:42:53,990
So how many people do you reckon you've
had here today?

482
00:42:54,570 --> 00:43:01,050
And I guess you're seeing people from
all

483
00:43:01,050 --> 00:43:02,710
kinds of parts of the world?

484
00:43:08,990 --> 00:43:12,210
What's your own opinion on what it is
that we have here?

485
00:43:12,450 --> 00:43:13,710
Do you have a view?

486
00:43:17,010 --> 00:43:18,010
Sure.

487
00:43:32,030 --> 00:43:33,030
Sure.

488
00:43:47,950 --> 00:43:50,410
So they're doing pretty well, actually.
They're on the back end of it.

489
00:43:53,730 --> 00:43:55,570
So what have you got so far, Richard?

490
00:43:56,170 --> 00:44:00,070
This one that you asked me how to look
at. Right. Oh, right. That one, in fact,

491
00:44:00,070 --> 00:44:03,710
when you line up the center with that
and that, they're exactly in line.

492
00:44:05,350 --> 00:44:06,169
Thanks a lot.

493
00:44:06,170 --> 00:44:09,890
With the compass bearing, you know,
we've been talking about the central

494
00:44:09,890 --> 00:44:10,890
and the open end.

495
00:44:11,410 --> 00:44:14,570
cutting either side of the stonehenge.
Have you been able to look at that or

496
00:44:14,570 --> 00:44:16,570
confirm that you have a compass
yourself? Yes.

497
00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:21,210
That might be... That would be a good
thing to do, I think.

498
00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:26,450
My compass shows from the centre of the
circle to the right -hand side of the

499
00:44:26,450 --> 00:44:27,730
stone in zero degrees.

500
00:44:28,090 --> 00:44:32,330
Right. And the open end, which is here,
to the left -hand side of the stone in

501
00:44:32,330 --> 00:44:33,770
zero degrees. The pencil circle again?

502
00:44:34,070 --> 00:44:38,090
Yes, centre. All right. So we're in the
open end of the tail right now.

503
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,060
To the musicians, it was a bass clef.

504
00:44:48,620 --> 00:44:54,500
To the geometers and mathematicians, it
was a computer -generated fractal image,

505
00:44:54,540 --> 00:44:56,820
which they called the Julia set. That's
why it's got its name.

506
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,760
To the marine biologists, it was a
perfect example of a cross -section of a

507
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,020
nautilus, a seashell.

508
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:11,860
And to a physiotherapist who counted out
the number of circles, she said, well,

509
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:17,600
that is absolutely the correct number of
vertebrae in a mammalian skeleton.

510
00:45:20,260 --> 00:45:26,480
There are families of circles, like
Julia said, the Mandelbrot

511
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,480
or fractals.

512
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,760
And it's very interesting that all of
them...

513
00:45:33,340 --> 00:45:40,020
come in groups of three with each major
themes you know the julia set and

514
00:45:40,020 --> 00:45:46,540
the fractal stars and the mandelbrot we
had three of them and they all followed

515
00:45:46,540 --> 00:45:53,440
the following line by its complexity and
size in 96 we had the jewish had a

516
00:45:53,440 --> 00:46:00,440
stonehenge it was the single one and we
had the um the triple julia

517
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,388
set

518
00:46:01,390 --> 00:46:05,830
and the small, as Julia said, like shape
at Livington Castle.

519
00:46:06,770 --> 00:46:12,970
They appeared in this one, two, three,
on a timeline.

520
00:46:13,330 --> 00:46:19,310
But the geometry or the complexity and
the size was one, two,

521
00:46:19,530 --> 00:46:20,870
three.

522
00:46:22,450 --> 00:46:25,490
The same happened with the fractal
stars.

523
00:46:25,850 --> 00:46:30,090
We had first Silbury Hill, which was the
simple one.

524
00:46:31,530 --> 00:46:38,410
then milk hill with the interior one,
and

525
00:46:38,410 --> 00:46:42,650
then triangle like this, a simple
version of it.

526
00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:51,130
One, two, three in relation to time, but
then one,

527
00:46:51,290 --> 00:46:54,990
two, three in relation to the complexity
inside.

528
00:46:56,510 --> 00:46:58,010
It looked like a plan.

529
00:46:58,750 --> 00:47:04,430
The plan was not just followed in one
year. It also went over three years and

530
00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:08,050
even by crossing countries, by crossing
borders.

531
00:48:41,450 --> 00:48:48,450
We're being forced to consider that this
universe has all

532
00:48:48,450 --> 00:48:52,230
kinds of intelligences all around us
that we have been ignoring.

533
00:48:53,130 --> 00:48:59,990
Particular intelligences can act freely
within the universe that we inhabit.

534
00:49:00,270 --> 00:49:01,830
They don't have to be our intelligence.

535
00:49:02,130 --> 00:49:04,670
They can be mysterious other
intelligences.

536
00:49:06,010 --> 00:49:10,370
I think that's really what's so
fascinating. The various domains of

537
00:49:10,370 --> 00:49:16,470
show that just like we are a particular
intelligence within the cosmos, we can

538
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:22,230
make art in participation with other
forces. So these other intelligences can

539
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:23,209
the same thing.

540
00:49:23,210 --> 00:49:27,270
Well, I think the one thing that people
misunderstand about art is that the

541
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:31,870
viewer is part of the art. The art
without the viewer doesn't even exist.

542
00:49:32,110 --> 00:49:34,370
It doesn't exist unless it's viewed.

543
00:49:34,910 --> 00:49:39,270
That is what the art is about. It's in
the moving through time and space, the

544
00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:41,390
evolution of the unfolding of the
experience.

545
00:49:41,890 --> 00:49:47,390
When you look at a painting by Van Gogh,
you see a picture of a landscape, maybe

546
00:49:47,390 --> 00:49:51,870
some people walking through it and stuff
like that. And yet, in that, you can

547
00:49:51,870 --> 00:49:55,570
also sense his energy, who he is, who he
was. You get a whole, there's this

548
00:49:55,570 --> 00:49:57,610
whole encapsulation of this person.

549
00:49:57,990 --> 00:50:01,430
So if I was to look at an analyzed crop
circles, I would try to look at them in

550
00:50:01,430 --> 00:50:02,430
terms of like...

551
00:50:02,510 --> 00:50:06,430
How do I go back to the creator from the
same way I look at a painting?

552
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:27,710
If these were messages coming from
somewhere else, it's entirely

553
00:50:27,710 --> 00:50:31,090
that the thing would be witty, playful,
geometrical.

554
00:50:32,279 --> 00:50:34,600
and staggeringly beautiful and
inspiring.

555
00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:42,540
The systems of proportion used in all
sacred art and architecture are very

556
00:50:42,540 --> 00:50:49,100
specific. They all embody a certain
amount of geometry, and they all obey

557
00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:50,140
certain rules.

558
00:50:51,340 --> 00:50:56,360
There are rules which state that you
have to balance line and curve in sacred

559
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,960
art. We see it at the low place in
church windows, Islamic patterns, all

560
00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:00,960
rest of it, so the light.

561
00:51:01,180 --> 00:51:04,720
The line elements of a design have to
balance the curve elements of the

562
00:51:05,220 --> 00:51:06,640
Crop circles were obeying that rule.

563
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,600
Another rule. You have to balance your
light and your dark in any piece of

564
00:51:14,340 --> 00:51:15,820
ancient, sacred art.

565
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,000
Again, crop circles were obeying that
rule.

566
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,360
The tunic of it, the laid crop and the
standing crop.

567
00:51:26,620 --> 00:51:30,940
Sacred art is supposed to be operating
without ego. You don't find, you don't

568
00:51:30,940 --> 00:51:33,840
have artists behind sacred art. The
divine is supposed to be operating

569
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:34,658
sacred art.

570
00:51:34,660 --> 00:51:38,100
Again, crop circles were exactly
following that rule.

571
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:45,780
Another rule, your integrity of material
for sacred art. You shouldn't really be

572
00:51:45,780 --> 00:51:49,980
using anything that's got anything that
isn't directly from the earth.

573
00:51:50,220 --> 00:51:53,100
You want to stay green and clean and
holy.

574
00:51:54,380 --> 00:51:57,920
Again, crop circles are obeying that
rule.

575
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,520
And then you've even got other rules,
such as the temporary nature of quite a

576
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:10,600
lot of sacred art, that it's often
destroyed after it's made. It's not

577
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,840
to be venerated too highly for too long,
otherwise it becomes a sacred cow.

578
00:52:15,220 --> 00:52:18,780
And again, crop circles, they're being
mowed down every year.

579
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:20,680
Another good example of it.

580
00:52:26,890 --> 00:52:33,470
Crop circles are the finest example of
modern innovative sacred art for our

581
00:52:33,470 --> 00:52:35,050
times. There's no competition.

582
00:52:35,470 --> 00:52:40,090
There's nothing happening in the visual
arts or modern arts at any level

583
00:52:40,090 --> 00:52:45,730
anywhere on the planet at the moment
that begins to compare with it as an art

584
00:52:45,730 --> 00:52:46,730
phenomenon.

585
00:52:47,210 --> 00:52:53,630
And there is no artist, certainly, who
could begin to compare with the artist

586
00:52:53,630 --> 00:52:55,130
who is behind the...

587
00:52:55,550 --> 00:52:57,590
crop circle phenomenon in terms of
design.

588
00:52:59,910 --> 00:53:03,710
They are very, very, very, very good
designers, and yet they don't hold their

589
00:53:03,710 --> 00:53:07,790
head up. So who are they? So what is it?
So who's behind it?

590
00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:14,490
Why does it bear all the hallmarks of a
mercurial intervention in some way,

591
00:53:14,610 --> 00:53:16,950
or even something else?

592
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:22,150
I mean, if it's the guys in the
spaceships, I'd love to visit one of

593
00:53:22,150 --> 00:53:24,750
chapels, you know, because they sure do
good.

594
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:26,280
Good windows.

595
00:53:43,060 --> 00:53:45,860
Okay, you don't know, of course, where
to walk. What we're going to do is we're

596
00:53:45,860 --> 00:53:50,540
going to follow the tram line, and then
we take the proper tram line to go up

597
00:53:50,540 --> 00:53:51,540
into the formation.

598
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:53,980
So we just go in there.

599
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,440
To be honest, I thought all the crop
circles were a big, big hoax, one big

600
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:02,700
There is a phenomenon, but I don't know
exactly what it is.

601
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:09,900
People are fairly limited in their way
of thinking. They want to have the

602
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:12,340
answer, it's alien or it's human.

603
00:54:13,380 --> 00:54:17,260
And I think it's something in between. I
don't think it's aliens. I don't think

604
00:54:17,260 --> 00:54:18,500
it's coming from outer space.

605
00:54:19,180 --> 00:54:21,920
But on the other hand, it's a
phenomenon. It's not just...

606
00:54:22,270 --> 00:54:28,610
one big hoax, something extraordinary is
going on here, and I think it has to do

607
00:54:28,610 --> 00:54:32,730
with our own being, our own way of
thinking.

608
00:54:33,370 --> 00:54:34,690
Let's see, let's not miss it.

609
00:54:36,790 --> 00:54:41,350
So in fact, in a way, we are creating
them ourselves, but not in the

610
00:54:41,350 --> 00:54:46,150
way of putting the crop flat with a
board, but I think we do it ourselves

611
00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:48,810
anyway. It's not coming from outer
space, it's us.

612
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,160
We are looking at ourselves.

613
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,020
It's our own mirrors we are looking at.

614
00:54:52,780 --> 00:54:53,780
Okay, let's go in.

615
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,900
From what I see from here now, it looks
a little bit violent to me.

616
00:55:02,940 --> 00:55:06,380
You see, the crop is shooting up already
again. It's a little cutting up.

617
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,540
There's one thing I learned in all the
years I'm coming in the crop circles.

618
00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:18,140
It's that it's very difficult to judge
by eye just is it genuine or not.

619
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,840
I tried to do that when I came for the
first time. I thought, oh, this is

620
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,840
genuine, this is not.

621
00:55:23,100 --> 00:55:25,180
Just by looking at it, but that's very
difficult.

622
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,220
Every crop stock has its own character.

623
00:55:29,940 --> 00:55:33,340
So this is done in straight lines. As
you can see, it's alternating.

624
00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:35,100
This one is on top.

625
00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:37,040
Then you have this one.

626
00:55:37,460 --> 00:55:39,000
Then it's this one again.

627
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:41,880
You see the different layers.

628
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:47,020
So if this is man -made, two people were
needed to do this, at least.

629
00:55:47,550 --> 00:55:48,288
Why is that?

630
00:55:48,290 --> 00:55:54,590
Because it's not that one side went down
and then the other side. You can see

631
00:55:54,590 --> 00:55:59,670
that this is over this again, but this
is over that again.

632
00:55:59,890 --> 00:56:03,010
So what you need is two people who do it
alternately.

633
00:56:04,030 --> 00:56:07,410
I'm not saying people did it, but that's
how difficult this is already.

634
00:56:07,610 --> 00:56:09,210
There's only this small part already.

635
00:56:09,490 --> 00:56:10,490
It's not that easy.

636
00:56:10,590 --> 00:56:13,690
It's not that straightforward as you
would think if you look at this for the

637
00:56:13,690 --> 00:56:14,690
first time.

638
00:56:15,690 --> 00:56:19,870
There are lines, you can call them
pathways, but they're construction lines

639
00:56:19,870 --> 00:56:20,870
under the crop.

640
00:56:20,970 --> 00:56:23,450
This one is fairly obvious because it's
laying on top of it.

641
00:56:23,650 --> 00:56:27,070
This one is less obvious because it's
going under it, but when you follow it,

642
00:56:27,170 --> 00:56:29,950
you will see it's one big line.

643
00:56:30,510 --> 00:56:33,630
And the rest is constructed around these
lines.

644
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:38,230
These lines are not as straightforward
as you would think. You would think, so

645
00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:41,590
it's a hoax, it's all man -made, but
that's not the case. Sometimes there are

646
00:56:41,590 --> 00:56:44,410
lines that you don't need, and lines you
do need, miss.

647
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:45,920
are not there.

648
00:56:48,420 --> 00:56:53,480
The bending in the notes is something
that only happens very occasionally, and

649
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,500
it's a misunderstanding about it. A lot
of people think you will find it in

650
00:56:56,500 --> 00:56:57,920
every single crop circle.

651
00:56:58,140 --> 00:57:00,340
I only found it in a very few crop
circles.

652
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,460
A lot of times people will mistake, and
I will give you an example in the

653
00:57:04,460 --> 00:57:05,460
standing crop.

654
00:57:06,500 --> 00:57:08,120
This is the way how crop grows.

655
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:11,480
It comes out and then goes up.

656
00:57:11,940 --> 00:57:16,700
Now when this goes down, It gives you
the impression that there's a bend here.

657
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,240
That's not the bent notes.

658
00:57:18,780 --> 00:57:24,080
Bent notes are the ones, in fact, that
are the middle ones, the straight ones,

659
00:57:24,300 --> 00:57:25,300
that are bent.

660
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,320
And that is amazing.

661
00:57:26,580 --> 00:57:31,240
That's unexplainable. I believe there's
a phenomenon. I'm not going to look for

662
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,240
bent notes anymore in every single crop
circle.

663
00:57:33,860 --> 00:57:38,340
I try much more to get the feel from
what does it do to me, what does the

664
00:57:38,340 --> 00:57:40,000
do to me, but just the general feeling.

665
00:57:40,780 --> 00:57:42,240
And all the...

666
00:57:42,540 --> 00:57:46,920
The plant research, I will leave it up
to others, to Nancy Tolbert and people

667
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,520
like those. They can do this kind of
research.

668
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,260
That's not my business, in fact.

669
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:06,140
I heard about this guy, this Michigan
guy, it was Levengood, who had started

670
00:58:06,140 --> 00:58:10,480
do plant work. I was staggered that
there was somebody in the United States

671
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:11,480
interested.

672
00:58:12,110 --> 00:58:16,510
I mean, delighted and really amazed to
find that there was anybody, because by

673
00:58:16,510 --> 00:58:19,670
then I already had learned that there
were crop circles all over the country.

674
00:58:19,890 --> 00:58:23,070
They weren't just in England, and they
were in the United States, they were in

675
00:58:23,070 --> 00:58:26,910
Canada, they were in other Western
European countries. We knew about them

676
00:58:26,910 --> 00:58:27,910
Australia by then.

677
00:58:28,530 --> 00:58:34,690
And both Burke and Levengood, as far as
I know to this day, are pretty much

678
00:58:34,690 --> 00:58:41,690
committed. to the idea that the
causative agency is an ionospheric

679
00:58:41,690 --> 00:58:46,810
the plasma that's generated in the
ionosphere, and then descends to the

680
00:58:46,810 --> 00:58:51,710
surface, goes to certain locations for
whatever reason, the aquifer connection,

681
00:58:52,030 --> 00:58:56,970
some sort of magnetic anomaly or
whatever, and leaves these impressions

682
00:58:56,970 --> 00:58:57,970
crop as a result.

683
00:58:58,660 --> 00:59:03,620
The design aspect is the thing that
causes the most trouble for people with

684
00:59:03,620 --> 00:59:09,680
explanation. In fluid dynamics and in
numerous other areas of science, you see

685
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,880
fabulous designs exhibited all the time.

686
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,880
I mean, just look for a minute. Think of
the head of a sunflower seed. Just

687
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:17,880
think what it looks like.

688
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:24,980
I mean, how amazingly intricate is that?
I mean, the shell of a seashell.

689
00:59:25,660 --> 00:59:29,700
I mean, there are millions and millions
of examples of nature creating

690
00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:31,480
incredibly intricate designs.

691
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:37,740
I mean, the major point is, I think, for
people who don't know anything about

692
00:59:37,740 --> 00:59:42,700
crop circles, is not to jump to the
conclusion that because you've never

693
00:59:42,700 --> 00:59:47,980
anything like this before, that it is
supernatural.

694
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,660
It might be supernatural. I don't know
for sure.

695
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,060
But look first at the obvious.

696
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,940
we have still only scratched the surface
of what is there to be understood.

697
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,500
And it may be that many things which
have historically been thought of as

698
01:00:03,500 --> 01:00:08,620
supernatural are in fact part of the
natural world that occur only randomly

699
01:00:08,620 --> 01:00:13,780
only occasionally or under certain
circumstances, and that they're actually

700
01:00:13,780 --> 01:00:17,720
part of the natural environment that
nobody's bothered to study very much and

701
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,820
doesn't understand yet. The thing with
science, the beauty of it is, if you get

702
01:00:21,820 --> 01:00:23,440
a piece of information that doesn't fit,

703
01:00:24,190 --> 01:00:27,430
you have to go back to square one and
you build another theory. You take in,

704
01:00:27,430 --> 01:00:31,070
follow the data. You don't come up with
an idea and then make things fit. You

705
01:00:31,070 --> 01:00:32,250
see what's actually there.

706
01:00:33,050 --> 01:00:38,930
And what Levengood documented
beautifully, and I would guess tediously

707
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:43,410
many years, were the basic changes in
the plants.

708
01:00:43,870 --> 01:00:49,990
And he also discovered magnetic
particles in the soils that are very

709
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:57,460
One of the things that he discovered was
that the seeds taken from crop circle

710
01:00:57,460 --> 01:01:01,100
plants grew totally differently than the
controls.

711
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,780
What this is is a bunch of seeds taken
from a formation and a bunch of seeds

712
01:01:05,780 --> 01:01:09,360
from the controls in a lab tray. And
he's germinating. He has a germination

713
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,040
chamber. It's calibrated to a certain
temperature, a certain amount of

714
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:14,320
etc., etc.

715
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,760
And it's done in a very standard way.

716
01:01:17,670 --> 01:01:22,370
If the crop was young and immature, the
seed was not fully formed when the crop

717
01:01:22,370 --> 01:01:23,370
circle occurred.

718
01:01:23,690 --> 01:01:27,230
The seedling was depressed, the
seedling's energies.

719
01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:31,390
Often they wouldn't germinate, and if
they did germinate, not strongly enough

720
01:01:31,390 --> 01:01:32,390
be viable.

721
01:01:32,670 --> 01:01:36,190
However, in mature crop, where the seed
was already formed when the energies

722
01:01:36,190 --> 01:01:40,110
hit, then you got exactly the opposite.
You got increased growth in yield.

723
01:01:43,250 --> 01:01:46,910
Normally a germination is four days. All
they're looking for is does the seed

724
01:01:46,910 --> 01:01:47,910
germinate or not.

725
01:01:48,590 --> 01:01:51,990
That's the beginning of what Levengood
does. Once that is done, he's then

726
01:01:51,990 --> 01:01:55,350
measuring the root and shoot development
for up to 14 days in some cases.

727
01:01:55,650 --> 01:01:59,110
He's wanting to see what happens
subsequent to germination.

728
01:02:00,990 --> 01:02:05,250
This is this case in Maryland where the
elongated nodes occurred.

729
01:02:06,270 --> 01:02:09,650
There were these swaths cut through the
crop.

730
01:02:10,529 --> 01:02:14,170
and the nodes are bent to the left and
the right. Node bending is a natural

731
01:02:14,170 --> 01:02:18,630
response of the plant. If it's young and
growing, if it's knocked down and not

732
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:22,550
killed, it will try to reorient itself
according to gravity. It's called

733
01:02:22,550 --> 01:02:27,130
gravitropism or phototropism. It just
reorients itself to the light.

734
01:02:27,650 --> 01:02:31,770
So if you go to a crop circle and nodes
are bent, if you don't know when that

735
01:02:31,770 --> 01:02:36,190
crop circle occurred and you don't know
the age of the crop at the time, You

736
01:02:36,190 --> 01:02:40,230
don't know whether this node bending
might be due to natural phototropism or

737
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:42,310
whether it's something that occurred
during the event.

738
01:02:42,750 --> 01:02:46,510
If you get there quickly and you know
that it has just happened and you find

739
01:02:46,510 --> 01:02:50,510
massive node bending like this, these 90
-degree angles, this was part of the

740
01:02:50,510 --> 01:02:52,790
phenomenon. It actually bent the nodes.

741
01:02:53,230 --> 01:02:56,010
I want to show you the node enlargement
photo.

742
01:02:56,890 --> 01:03:03,130
The top are nodes. These are stem nodes
taken from inside the formation.

743
01:03:03,980 --> 01:03:07,240
The bottom shows you the controls, which
are taken at a considerable distance

744
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:08,240
outside.

745
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:12,920
What are the characteristics of this
node lengthening? What Levengood says is

746
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:18,560
going on is that the moisture, remember
the plant stem is hollow, and the

747
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,620
nutrients, the moisture which nourishes
the plant, goes up through this stem.

748
01:03:23,820 --> 01:03:28,980
Plasmas, a fact about plasmas is that
they emit microwaves in bursts, pulses.

749
01:03:30,740 --> 01:03:37,260
His idea is that the microwaves from
these pulses are connecting with the

750
01:03:37,260 --> 01:03:40,100
moisture inside the plant stem, just
like they would in your microwave oven,

751
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:44,180
heating the plant up, which softens it
and allows it to fall.

752
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:50,360
The moisture inside turns to steam, and
as it does so, it has to escape.

753
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:57,340
Well, if the plants are young and
pliable, the antifibers are pliable, the

754
01:03:57,340 --> 01:03:59,400
escapes by stretching the nodes.

755
01:04:00,300 --> 01:04:02,100
That's how you get the elongated nodes.

756
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:09,560
If the energy is extremely intense and
or if the crop is old and the fibers

757
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:14,360
are tough, then it can't get out by
stretching it because the fibers won't

758
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:19,200
stretch or it's just too much energy.
Then it blows a hole right out at the

759
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,220
node. That's called the blown node.

760
01:04:21,500 --> 01:04:23,540
Yeah, and that's what those are our
exploded nodes.

761
01:04:26,370 --> 01:04:28,210
These are samples of corn.

762
01:04:28,690 --> 01:04:32,490
We have done a number of corn
formations. These are crop circles that

763
01:04:32,490 --> 01:04:36,850
the corn. But you see, what we're
looking at here is these.

764
01:04:37,210 --> 01:04:38,850
You want to see the light coming right
through those.

765
01:04:40,190 --> 01:04:43,310
The crop was down, and here were these
expulsion cavities.

766
01:04:43,630 --> 01:04:49,470
The amount of energy that it would take
to do this in full -grown corn must be

767
01:04:49,470 --> 01:04:50,470
quite astounding.

768
01:04:54,510 --> 01:04:58,990
When we do this sampling, a lot of
people think that, you know, we take a

769
01:04:58,990 --> 01:04:59,990
stock here or there.

770
01:05:00,090 --> 01:05:06,130
Well, we don't. We take hundreds of
plants, thousands often, say 50, 60, 70

771
01:05:06,130 --> 01:05:09,430
samples, and each sample consists of
between 10 and 20 plants.

772
01:05:09,890 --> 01:05:14,450
And then we do the same thing in the
controls, starting immediately outside

773
01:05:14,450 --> 01:05:18,870
circle and going up to 500, 1 ,000 feet
away in several directions.

774
01:05:19,250 --> 01:05:23,390
Then the idea is that you compare what
you see in the plants inside.

775
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,180
to what you see in the plants outside.

776
01:05:33,820 --> 01:05:39,300
So it seems to be some three -fold
double crescent spinner.

777
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:40,600
Yeah.

778
01:05:41,060 --> 01:05:45,780
Beautiful to behold from the hill. I
can't wait to get up in the air.

779
01:06:09,100 --> 01:06:15,060
Yeah, so, how do you explain the bend on
that guy?

780
01:06:15,460 --> 01:06:20,800
It seems like maybe one out of a hundred
have these bends that, if it were

781
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,960
mechanical, they'd all be broken.

782
01:06:23,740 --> 01:06:29,300
There is this very nice looking, what I
call a plumber's bend. It's absolutely

783
01:06:29,300 --> 01:06:30,540
90 degrees going down.

784
01:06:38,730 --> 01:06:40,030
Master Lou found that one.

785
01:06:41,810 --> 01:06:45,090
Huh? Yeah, that one's good.

786
01:06:47,630 --> 01:06:49,590
Wow, he found a magical thing.

787
01:06:49,870 --> 01:06:52,070
Yeah, quite a lot of them.

788
01:06:52,450 --> 01:06:54,330
Yeah. Ah, lovely.

789
01:06:56,130 --> 01:07:02,890
All right, this is a case in Salem,
Oregon, 1997, out on the West

790
01:07:02,890 --> 01:07:03,890
Coast.

791
01:07:04,170 --> 01:07:09,850
We found node length changes in the
plants in this formation, and we also

792
01:07:09,850 --> 01:07:12,350
a massive incidence of expulsion
cavities.

793
01:07:12,830 --> 01:07:17,910
The controls in this case were taken
away from the formation in this

794
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:22,170
and away from the formation in that
direction, out into the standing crop.

795
01:07:22,730 --> 01:07:28,190
What we discovered was that we had
significant node length changes inside

796
01:07:28,190 --> 01:07:30,170
formation, and we had these expulsion
cavities.

797
01:07:30,550 --> 01:07:35,750
But what we also found in the standing
crop Outside the formation, the

798
01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:41,910
supposedly unaffected crop, we found
node length changes which decreased as a

799
01:07:41,910 --> 01:07:45,850
function of distance away from the edge
and in a completely linear fashion.

800
01:07:46,150 --> 01:07:49,170
Those are the controls taken north and
south.

801
01:07:49,610 --> 01:07:54,470
The node lengths are decreasing the
farther you get away in the standing

802
01:07:55,110 --> 01:07:58,970
Again, if you talk about man -made
events, how did they change the node

803
01:07:58,970 --> 01:08:02,950
in standing crop that is apparently
completely visually?

804
01:08:04,550 --> 01:08:08,530
There's a law in physics known as the
Beer -Lambert principle, and it simply

805
01:08:08,530 --> 01:08:14,650
describes the precise way in which
matter, any matter, absorbs

806
01:08:14,650 --> 01:08:20,970
energy. Well, if you're using node
length change as the equivalent to

807
01:08:20,970 --> 01:08:27,250
exposure to the energy, then as that
decreases, when it does so in a linear

808
01:08:27,250 --> 01:08:31,790
fashion, it means that what caused the
change has got to be electromagnetic

809
01:08:31,790 --> 01:08:32,790
energy.

810
01:08:33,470 --> 01:08:36,149
Because the Beer -Lambert principle,
that's what it's describing.

811
01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:40,790
Then you have another interesting thing.
You've seen many standing centers

812
01:08:40,790 --> 01:08:42,250
inside crop circles.

813
01:08:42,649 --> 01:08:43,689
Well, guess what?

814
01:08:44,250 --> 01:08:50,810
The standing centers often show as much
change or more in the nodes than what

815
01:08:50,810 --> 01:08:52,670
you find in the down crop surrounding
them.

816
01:08:53,350 --> 01:08:56,830
And the hoaxers are telling you, well,
they knock the plants down. Okay.

817
01:08:57,270 --> 01:08:58,990
Then how in the world did they do?

818
01:08:59,450 --> 01:09:02,609
What happened to the standing plants? I
was just thinking, I wonder why the

819
01:09:02,609 --> 01:09:04,410
crops didn't fall down, if they were
affected.

820
01:09:05,109 --> 01:09:10,830
It's a complex energy system. Whatever
this is, it is a complex, multi, many

821
01:09:10,830 --> 01:09:12,670
energies. You have an electrical
component.

822
01:09:12,910 --> 01:09:17,370
There is obviously a strong magnetic
field, another energy present.

823
01:09:17,710 --> 01:09:21,550
There may be energies we haven't
described. The point is, you've got,

824
01:09:21,550 --> 01:09:25,750
one single energy doing this. And each
energy is functioning independently of

825
01:09:25,750 --> 01:09:27,529
the others and chaotically.

826
01:09:28,109 --> 01:09:31,350
It's called a thermodynamically unstable
situation.

827
01:09:32,689 --> 01:09:37,050
It means you can't predict precisely
which thing is going to operate which

828
01:09:37,229 --> 01:09:40,810
I would think that local weather factors
would affect it. I would think local

829
01:09:40,810 --> 01:09:45,510
geographical factors would affect it.
The type of crop, the age the crop is at

830
01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:46,510
the time it occurs.

831
01:09:46,590 --> 01:09:51,490
All of those things are probably factors
in whatever the final result really is.

832
01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:57,010
This is obviously a very fresh one.

833
01:09:57,570 --> 01:10:02,350
It wasn't here half past ten last night
when we drove past and we happened to

834
01:10:02,350 --> 01:10:04,250
spot it this morning as we were driving
down the road.

835
01:10:04,570 --> 01:10:08,070
When we first got into the formation,
the first thing I did was test it with

836
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:14,590
compass and taking a bearing down these
side arms from the star, central star,

837
01:10:14,710 --> 01:10:21,050
I was getting about an eight degree
variation in north from the very centre

838
01:10:21,050 --> 01:10:24,050
the circle to about where we're standing
here, this sort of distance.

839
01:10:24,930 --> 01:10:29,340
And then from where we were standing
here, to the outer edge of the crop

840
01:10:29,340 --> 01:10:33,940
it was all constant so in other words
the fluctuation was occurring between

841
01:10:33,940 --> 01:10:35,080
and the center

842
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:41,860
this is a

843
01:10:41,860 --> 01:10:47,660
case of the magnetic particles in the
soils being distributed in a completely

844
01:10:47,660 --> 01:10:53,100
linear fashion what we've discovered now
in formation after formation all over

845
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:56,650
the world are these tiny little rounded
particles.

846
01:10:57,250 --> 01:10:58,250
Oh, look at that.

847
01:10:58,810 --> 01:11:01,390
Wow. You can't see a lot of these with
the naked eye.

848
01:11:01,850 --> 01:11:05,650
But the fact that they're perfectly
spherical indicates they were in a

849
01:11:05,650 --> 01:11:09,350
state as they fell to Earth because
that's how you get the spheres.

850
01:11:09,730 --> 01:11:11,390
We used to make lead shot that way,
right?

851
01:11:12,090 --> 01:11:15,450
Revolutionary War, we heated the lead up
and we dropped it off towers because it

852
01:11:15,450 --> 01:11:16,450
forms spheres.

853
01:11:17,690 --> 01:11:23,010
This is a case in Canada a couple of
years ago in this area of Saskatchewan.

854
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,640
Those are several formations which
occurred in one field simultaneously.

855
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:31,040
This is the sampling diagram on that
larger circle. And as you can see, what

856
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:32,140
did here were two diameters.

857
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:38,800
Now, in every case, a plant sample is
taken, let's say 20 plants per spot, and

858
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:39,900
soil sample is taken.

859
01:11:40,340 --> 01:11:42,720
The lines that go outside are controls.

860
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:43,960
Right, obviously.

861
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:51,000
Okay, in this circle, that is the
deposition of the magnetic material, the

862
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,960
of the material being found around the
edges.

863
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:58,700
But when you get this very tight linear
disposition, what you're talking about

864
01:11:58,700 --> 01:12:02,140
is a force or energy at work. I mean,
you've got – that's a clear display of

865
01:12:02,220 --> 01:12:05,760
You could think that people could have
handfuls of this stuff and just be

866
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:09,460
throwing it around if they were making
it. But when you get – when it's

867
01:12:09,460 --> 01:12:13,640
microscopic to begin with and you get it
– you get these clear linear

868
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,200
distributions of it, whether it's node
length or magnetic material, what it is,

869
01:12:17,300 --> 01:12:19,180
how in the world would anybody do it?

870
01:12:19,930 --> 01:12:24,610
You know, in this case, I mean, it
indicates that a force, an energy was at

871
01:12:24,610 --> 01:12:28,930
work. It's governed by principles
completely outside of human beings. It

872
01:12:28,930 --> 01:12:29,930
nothing to do with us.

873
01:12:30,530 --> 01:12:33,770
The proof here is so consistently solid.

874
01:12:34,090 --> 01:12:36,550
It reaffirms itself every damn case.

875
01:12:36,910 --> 01:12:40,710
It certainly affirms that it's made or
that these things are created with the

876
01:12:40,710 --> 01:12:44,250
manipulation of some sort of exotic use
of energy.

877
01:12:44,710 --> 01:12:48,150
Apparently. I mean, I've spent years
being torn.

878
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:53,580
about the natural versus something else
idea.

879
01:12:53,960 --> 01:13:00,500
And it's only in the last year, with an
accumulation of a number of

880
01:13:00,500 --> 01:13:06,860
experiences, that I've gotten to the
point where I cannot personally think

881
01:13:06,860 --> 01:13:11,520
I cannot understand this as a phenomenon
without some kind of consciousness

882
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:12,520
involved.

883
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:17,380
I have no idea whether it's my
consciousness or the collective

884
01:13:17,380 --> 01:13:22,160
Jung's or the consciousness of quanta. I
mean, I don't know.

885
01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:34,040
People are saying this is the most
amazing formation that's ever hit the

886
01:13:34,180 --> 01:13:36,740
and I would kind of agree with them,
really.

887
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,100
It's the biggest, the most expansive.

888
01:13:41,580 --> 01:13:46,840
smashed all records for numbers of
circles and geographical spread.

889
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:53,980
Everything about it is like the absolute
pinnacle almost of the whole,

890
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,060
you know, 20 years or so.

891
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:02,460
When I first walked into this thing, so
vast I had absolutely no idea of what I

892
01:14:02,460 --> 01:14:06,340
was standing in, just a sea of circles
covering a large proportion of the

893
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,660
It took us half hour to find the centre.

894
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:13,080
It gives one a fairly good impression of
the scale of this thing, and that's

895
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,380
after looking at hundreds of circles
over the years, so we're pretty familiar

896
01:14:16,380 --> 01:14:19,700
with geometric shapes and patterns in a
field and figuring them out.

897
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:24,200
But this one, I mean, I ask you, 409
circles.

898
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,340
That's a tall order by anyone's
standard.

899
01:14:30,300 --> 01:14:34,180
It was raining all night the night this
formation came down. This is a high

900
01:14:34,180 --> 01:14:36,620
-altitude location. This takes a
battering by the weather.

901
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,380
We were the first ones in here when this
formation arrived.

902
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:48,460
No footprints, no mud, you know, no
broken plants. All the centres were

903
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:54,240
No sign of human activity or entry into
this field at all. You know, I've seen

904
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:58,440
the result of a team of people or a gang
of people smashing around in a

905
01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:01,740
cornfield all night. They make a hell of
a mess. You just can't help it. It's a

906
01:15:01,740 --> 01:15:02,740
matter of fact.

907
01:15:03,700 --> 01:15:04,700
This was...

908
01:15:05,210 --> 01:15:09,270
Totally inconsistent with everything I
know about human -made crop circles.

909
01:15:09,710 --> 01:15:14,310
You can't do that in a cornfield. Just
hit the deck perfectly, first time

910
01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:16,930
no errors, no mistakes, no glitches.

911
01:15:18,270 --> 01:15:21,670
It's just here, and it arrived in a few
hours in perfect condition.

912
01:15:26,930 --> 01:15:31,090
Well, certainly in the early days, there
was a strong feeling from...

913
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,560
those of us who were there, that there
was something around here, there was

914
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:39,540
something of an invisible nature which
was around, which was either making the

915
01:15:39,540 --> 01:15:41,660
circles or associated with the circles.

916
01:15:43,940 --> 01:15:49,660
And from many of the reports, there were
reports of balls of light, lights in

917
01:15:49,660 --> 01:15:50,660
the sky.

918
01:15:51,620 --> 01:15:55,060
Suddenly in those early days... And, you
know, you've heard about the balls of

919
01:15:55,060 --> 01:15:57,940
light which everybody sees in the crop
circle areas in England.

920
01:15:58,380 --> 01:16:01,080
Well, often they're seen when there's no
crop circle.

921
01:16:01,580 --> 01:16:05,500
in the field they're simply in the field
the lights and in most of those cases

922
01:16:05,500 --> 01:16:09,960
after the light bulbs have been
photographed or videotaped or whatever a

923
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,940
circle will occur in that location
sometimes a week later or three weeks a

924
01:16:13,940 --> 01:16:20,020
whatever well i have seen those balls of
light not just at crop circle locations

925
01:16:20,020 --> 01:16:26,880
and this made me think about what they
are because i well i know

926
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,850
that what i have seen was not always
related to crop circles But then I have

927
01:16:30,850 --> 01:16:33,930
seen them again in relation to a crop
circle.

928
01:16:35,570 --> 01:16:39,790
I mean, don't forget that we've got
phenomenal light activity in this area,

929
01:16:39,790 --> 01:16:41,310
daylight as well as in the night.

930
01:16:41,770 --> 01:16:46,030
And they're not just seen in the summer,
they're seen in the winter too. And

931
01:16:46,030 --> 01:16:49,670
they're seen by people who just live in
the village and have got nothing to do

932
01:16:49,670 --> 01:16:50,670
with crop circles.

933
01:16:51,150 --> 01:16:54,250
So we know there's something weird going
on.

934
01:17:02,430 --> 01:17:07,310
Avebury, Alton Barnes, you know, that
area, where they are seen really quite

935
01:17:07,310 --> 01:17:10,290
regularly, captured on film several
times now.

936
01:17:10,970 --> 01:17:16,970
Particularly, I mean, those taken by
Steve Alexander, for example, in 1990.

937
01:17:18,790 --> 01:17:21,690
We were just about to leave, you see. I
was leaving.

938
01:17:22,010 --> 01:17:28,970
I was picking up my gear, put on my
shoulder, and I turned and I

939
01:17:28,970 --> 01:17:30,170
saw this object come into view.

940
01:17:31,020 --> 01:17:36,760
If it had been actually five seconds
afterwards, we would have missed this,

941
01:17:36,820 --> 01:17:41,460
because we would have carried on up the
hill. Now I actually turned round and

942
01:17:41,460 --> 01:17:46,880
saw it. I mean, it came into view, it
turned, then it went down into the corn,

943
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,720
and it moved through the corn.

944
01:17:50,540 --> 01:17:54,920
Moving between two formations, crop
formations that are in the field, moving

945
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,000
from this one to this one.

946
01:17:57,340 --> 01:18:00,720
It knew what it was doing. It knew where
it was going. It was intelligently

947
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:01,720
controlled.

948
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,860
Dropping down into a tractor tire mark
as if it's looking at the tractor tire

949
01:18:06,860 --> 01:18:11,020
mark. Nothing random about it. There's
no movement in the prevailing wind, you

950
01:18:11,020 --> 01:18:14,680
know, moving as you would in the
direction of the wind if this was a

951
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:15,680
something similar.

952
01:18:18,580 --> 01:18:21,440
You see, the object came down and it
stopped for a long time.

953
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,560
So I thought I'd pan away to the rings.

954
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:29,660
To give you the distance from where the
object was and the rings were. Pan back

955
01:18:29,660 --> 01:18:32,500
and give you an actual relation of the
two distances.

956
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:44,340
For all this time it was glinting,
flashing all the time. Then it took off.

957
01:18:46,260 --> 01:18:48,560
And of course then it just carried on
over the hill.

958
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:50,580
Moved up and away.

959
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,500
Over the actual tractor which the farmer
was...

960
01:18:58,520 --> 01:18:59,720
It's a bird.

961
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:06,540
You know, I spoke to the tractor driver
who was seen on this film that Steve

962
01:19:06,540 --> 01:19:13,500
took, and that ball went over the
tractor driver's head by about 35,

963
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:14,560
40 feet.

964
01:19:15,020 --> 01:19:19,040
And what the tractor driver sees
himself, as you can see on the film, he

965
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,240
his tractor as he sees it go over the
top.

966
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,360
And so we have on film this ball of
light.

967
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:33,080
There's no question in my mind that
whatever those balls of light are, they

968
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:34,360
in a purposeful manner.

969
01:19:34,660 --> 01:19:41,460
If it's a random natural thing that's
happening, then I think one in the 30,

970
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,540
100 will be filmed. So we have the
camera and the cop -on to film it.

971
01:19:46,260 --> 01:19:50,740
But that's not the case. It's half, even
more than half of the sightings are

972
01:19:50,740 --> 01:19:55,360
filmed. Like Donald Fletcher who walks
at Barbary Castle, he does not even have

973
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,580
his camera on the tripod, yet the balls
were right already.

974
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:06,100
What's that?

975
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,220
I can't think what that is.

976
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:19,780
Can you see it moving across?

977
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:23,480
When the camera's pointing.

978
01:20:27,020 --> 01:20:33,540
The big question is, number one, do you
think the balls of

979
01:20:33,540 --> 01:20:34,540
light are intelligent?

980
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,560
Yes. I'm convinced.

981
01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:38,100
You're not convinced?

982
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,380
No, there's no real proof of that.

983
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,760
What I see is an intelligent behavior.

984
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:05,480
Are they energetic or are they a device?

985
01:21:05,780 --> 01:21:06,780
I think they're energetic.

986
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:11,480
I think, yeah, because if you look
really good at the footages, you should

987
01:21:11,480 --> 01:21:13,640
analyze them really carefully.

988
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:19,080
Everybody who sees them, the first thing
they say is, light.

989
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,680
So they recognize it as a light, not as
a mechanical thing, but as a light.

990
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:28,540
Do you have any stories of people
thinking more close up and having it

991
01:21:28,540 --> 01:21:29,920
with their thinking?

992
01:21:30,440 --> 01:21:35,460
Charlie Mallard was down here visiting a
park. He was sitting in a circle at

993
01:21:35,460 --> 01:21:38,880
night, and this thing just showed up. It
was two feet away from the sand.

994
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,660
So you had a ball of light experience,
right?

995
01:21:44,780 --> 01:21:45,780
Several, actually.

996
01:21:47,740 --> 01:21:48,740
Yeah.

997
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:54,900
Some very interesting paranormal
experiences since getting involved in

998
01:21:54,900 --> 01:22:00,360
situation. Part of my initial motivation
for being here was to kind of, if this

999
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:04,960
stuff is being done by something else
for whatever reason, I would like to be

1000
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:06,260
there when it happens, you know?

1001
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:12,620
So on this particular occasion, I was in
a formation close to here before I

1002
01:22:12,620 --> 01:22:13,620
actually saw her.

1003
01:22:13,950 --> 01:22:16,650
or physically experienced anything.

1004
01:22:16,970 --> 01:22:22,290
Probably about three to five minutes
before this happened, the whole

1005
01:22:22,290 --> 01:22:25,170
in the formation changed, or at least in
this particular part of it.

1006
01:22:25,910 --> 01:22:30,290
The whole atmosphere around me within
the formation became very highly

1007
01:22:30,390 --> 01:22:35,430
practically electric, to the degree
where I was sitting there thinking, you

1008
01:22:35,430 --> 01:22:38,710
know, this is really weird, you know,
should I leave the formation?

1009
01:22:39,250 --> 01:22:40,870
And I...

1010
01:22:41,340 --> 01:22:46,120
Ball of light just appeared directly in
front of me for some glowing sphere kind

1011
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:50,300
of orange yellow Translucent not really
casting much of a glow and it didn't

1012
01:22:50,300 --> 01:22:54,180
really do much It just kind of appeared
hovered above the ground for something

1013
01:22:54,180 --> 01:22:57,560
like a minute quite a long time I didn't
have time to kind of you know get up

1014
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:02,760
and move around a bit and have a look
and Strangely enough as as this ball of

1015
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,800
light appears the whole subjective
creepy

1016
01:23:07,170 --> 01:23:11,990
Bizarre feelings all go and I'm just in
a normal everyday situation, but as if

1017
01:23:11,990 --> 01:23:17,290
this ball of light there Is there for up
to a minute in the hole in the ball of

1018
01:23:17,290 --> 01:23:22,950
light fades out is all right fades to
nothing over a few seconds And I fell

1019
01:23:22,950 --> 01:23:29,930
asleep immediately Have you guys
actually seen your

1020
01:23:29,930 --> 01:23:33,250
own balls of light in fields or in crop
circles

1021
01:23:34,890 --> 01:23:37,050
So was it at night or during the day?

1022
01:23:37,530 --> 01:23:42,890
I only saw one really ball of light. It
was at night time. It was floating over

1023
01:23:42,890 --> 01:23:44,010
a crop field.

1024
01:23:44,290 --> 01:23:47,510
Slowly, it took about two minutes to go
from one side to the other side.

1025
01:23:47,830 --> 01:23:51,970
This was such an ember ball. It looked
like a fireplace, an open fireplace.

1026
01:23:52,470 --> 01:23:56,790
It was getting bigger, smaller, bigger.
It was just floating slowly until it

1027
01:23:56,790 --> 01:23:58,010
disappeared behind the shed.

1028
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,440
And I thought that's going to take two
seconds and then we'll see it again. And

1029
01:24:01,440 --> 01:24:02,900
I saw it again. It stopped.

1030
01:24:03,180 --> 01:24:05,180
Why it was behind the shed. It's very
strange.

1031
01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:06,480
How far away were you?

1032
01:24:06,820 --> 01:24:10,380
A couple of hundred meters. It was
pretty distant. So I had to use my

1033
01:24:10,380 --> 01:24:11,380
to really see it.

1034
01:24:11,540 --> 01:24:14,020
I saw it. It was there as well. I saw it
with the naked eye.

1035
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,340
But I missed the details that he saw
because he had the binoculars.

1036
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,540
Balls of light are certainly seen around
the hills here. This is why we have

1037
01:24:20,540 --> 01:24:21,540
Golden Ball Hill.

1038
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,380
Because the memory of balls of light
have always been seen there.

1039
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:31,120
Are these places of communication with
intelligence beyond this physical world?

1040
01:24:31,380 --> 01:24:35,520
Who knows, but certainly that is in the
folklore of the land here.

1041
01:24:36,100 --> 01:24:39,440
Willow the wisps that were caught here
in England and Germany, they are called

1042
01:24:39,440 --> 01:24:44,320
Ehrlichter, and they have been observed
for centuries.

1043
01:24:44,900 --> 01:24:50,020
How do we approach phenomena in a way
that is open enough that we can actually

1044
01:24:50,020 --> 01:24:52,720
see what it actually is outside of our
own?

1045
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:58,620
We have to lose our illusions and our
preconceived ideas. We have to leave

1046
01:24:58,620 --> 01:25:02,740
behind. Because when we go with
preconceived ideas, we see our

1047
01:25:02,740 --> 01:25:03,740
ideas.

1048
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,480
We think by analytic process.

1049
01:25:09,780 --> 01:25:13,980
Then what we need to do is we need to
synthesize what our analysis reveals.

1050
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:20,460
Part of the thing that we do is that we
break something down in its component

1051
01:25:20,460 --> 01:25:23,820
elements and then forget to put them
back together again to get the larger

1052
01:25:23,820 --> 01:25:25,040
picture. Ah, yes.

1053
01:25:25,380 --> 01:25:26,680
Well, that's our science.

1054
01:25:27,060 --> 01:25:32,080
Science is the reductionist aspect of
things. Somehow, if you analyze all the

1055
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,540
parts, you've got the whole, but of
course you miss something that's bigger,

1056
01:25:35,540 --> 01:25:39,160
you can never get the whole by just
adding the parts back together again.

1057
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:40,160
that's really true.

1058
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:47,900
Science has come full circle and
realized... that just dealing with

1059
01:25:47,900 --> 01:25:52,160
knowledge and the validation of
objective knowledge is giving them an

1060
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:53,220
picture of the universe.

1061
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:59,440
And they can't solve some of the
problems that they wanted to solve with

1062
01:25:59,440 --> 01:26:03,760
incomplete picture. So all of a sudden
consciousnesses start creeping back into

1063
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:08,600
scientific approaches to the world. And
now consciousness studies are like some

1064
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,240
of the biggest things even in physics.

1065
01:26:11,340 --> 01:26:13,020
Theoretical physicists are...

1066
01:26:13,370 --> 01:26:16,890
knocking their brains on this issue of
consciousness, because the subjective

1067
01:26:16,890 --> 01:26:19,010
element has now been reintroduced into
science.

1068
01:26:20,830 --> 01:26:24,550
Now, consciousness doesn't operate just
in a three -dimensional world, or a four

1069
01:26:24,550 --> 01:26:25,309
-dimensional world.

1070
01:26:25,310 --> 01:26:29,230
In fact, we live in an 11 -dimensional
universe, which is mind -blowing in

1071
01:26:29,230 --> 01:26:34,590
itself, and I have a strong suspicion
that consciousness has an influence

1072
01:26:34,590 --> 01:26:35,590
all of those dimensions.

1073
01:26:35,810 --> 01:26:40,930
If it sends a projection of itself out
into those dimensions, then...

1074
01:26:41,470 --> 01:26:45,810
it's going to end up having all sorts of
things generated in the universe.

1075
01:26:47,270 --> 01:26:52,690
And the shadows of those projections are
going to appear in the form of some of

1076
01:26:52,690 --> 01:26:53,850
the geometrical shapes that we see.

1077
01:27:01,510 --> 01:27:05,630
I was interested not just in simple
circle formations but other more

1078
01:27:05,630 --> 01:27:09,030
versions and thinking, well, how could
these be created?

1079
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,600
I was very interested in the kinds of
shapes that were coming up and how they

1080
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,580
seemed to be variations, if you like, on
a theme.

1081
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:20,520
And one of the things I realized was it
seemed that the shapes that we're seeing

1082
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:25,320
were actually shadows of, shall we say,
three -dimensional objects or maybe even

1083
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:26,620
higher, four -dimensional objects.

1084
01:27:27,100 --> 01:27:31,020
For example, if you've got a ball or a
sphere and you shine a light on it, the

1085
01:27:31,020 --> 01:27:33,440
projection, the shadow, is one dimension
less.

1086
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,680
It's going to be an ellipse or it's
going to be a circle.

1087
01:27:37,100 --> 01:27:40,180
In a similar way, there's a way of
holding a cube.

1088
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,960
in such a way that the projection, the
shadow, appears as a hexagon.

1089
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:51,220
And it appeared to me that these
formations, they were a combination of a

1090
01:27:51,220 --> 01:27:51,879
of things.

1091
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:57,160
They clearly seem to be being generated
under the influence of some kind of

1092
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:58,520
field, gravitational field.

1093
01:27:59,180 --> 01:28:03,480
Whatever it was that was being applied
had its origins, had its source, if you

1094
01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:06,840
like, not just in this three
-dimensional world. It seems...

1095
01:28:07,340 --> 01:28:11,440
to have been a shadow, if you like, of a
higher -dimensional object or a higher

1096
01:28:11,440 --> 01:28:12,440
-dimensional construct.

1097
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:18,420
If there is some higher consciousness or
whatever, interaction from a higher

1098
01:28:18,420 --> 01:28:23,320
dimension that we're not aware of, what
we're seeing is we're effectively seeing

1099
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:27,160
the wake that's been left behind by the
object as it's gone through our

1100
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:31,160
dimension. Say, for instance, if you
imagine a speedboat whizzing around the

1101
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:35,060
bay, you'll get awake with the water
behind it where it's disturbed it.

1102
01:28:35,690 --> 01:28:40,010
Now, if you don't see that boat, you're
just seeing what's left behind.

1103
01:28:41,090 --> 01:28:45,530
Now, if that object is in the fourth
dimension or the fifth dimension or

1104
01:28:45,530 --> 01:28:50,550
whatever that we can't see, all we're
seeing is the aspect left in our

1105
01:28:50,550 --> 01:28:51,550
dimension.

1106
01:28:51,850 --> 01:28:58,770
Basically, if you look at this from a
cross -sectional view, it's

1107
01:28:58,770 --> 01:28:59,770
actually a pencil.

1108
01:29:00,910 --> 01:29:04,110
Now, in one dimension, all you see is
like a little line.

1109
01:29:04,620 --> 01:29:10,800
contracting two dimensions you just see
a hexagon expanding and contracting of

1110
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:15,580
course three dimensions you can actually
see the shape going through now if you

1111
01:29:15,580 --> 01:29:20,940
imagine this is our world this could be
some entity from a different dimension

1112
01:29:20,940 --> 01:29:27,900
passing through and we're basically
seeing in our 3d universe the image of

1113
01:29:27,900 --> 01:29:33,720
it so take it one step further looking
at it from a crop circle point of view

1114
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:39,580
you imagine this is poking through, the
actual shape here is a tetrahedron

1115
01:29:39,580 --> 01:29:42,440
with a sphere on each tip.

1116
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:49,760
As it more comes into view, you can then
end up with the Barbary

1117
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:50,760
Castle formation.

1118
01:29:53,480 --> 01:29:59,980
And if you rotate that round, you'll
actually see this particular shape,

1119
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:01,780
something like...

1120
01:30:02,890 --> 01:30:08,010
That where you can see the point there
the two points there and that point is

1121
01:30:08,010 --> 01:30:12,730
off centered there as it rotates round
Obviously Barbary Castle it would be in

1122
01:30:12,730 --> 01:30:17,410
the center. So you'd be looking at it
straight on Now if you've then got two

1123
01:30:17,410 --> 01:30:23,830
these shapes You'll see the second one
is starting to spin in

1124
01:30:23,830 --> 01:30:29,450
and Interlock with the first one and
then you get this shape which appeared

1125
01:30:29,450 --> 01:30:33,250
Etchelhampton the central circle and the
six circles around it.

1126
01:30:33,690 --> 01:30:39,470
If you then continue twisting them
around, like that,

1127
01:30:39,670 --> 01:30:42,730
that shape actually appeared up north.

1128
01:30:42,950 --> 01:30:47,110
It was sort of an off -centred Star of
David type formation.

1129
01:30:47,950 --> 01:30:54,790
Obviously, if I run it as a continuous
animation, you can see how

1130
01:30:54,790 --> 01:30:56,250
the lock locks together.

1131
01:30:56,910 --> 01:31:00,810
I want to put some of the more up -to
-date formations in there, because I'm

1132
01:31:00,810 --> 01:31:05,470
convinced, this will be another aspect
of the genuine phenomena, because you'll

1133
01:31:05,470 --> 01:31:09,650
find all the genuine ones probably
interlock to other formations.

1134
01:31:10,010 --> 01:31:15,050
So although you're looking at lots of
different formations, you're actually

1135
01:31:15,050 --> 01:31:18,890
looking at a single aspect or different
aspects of a single higher dimensional

1136
01:31:18,890 --> 01:31:21,450
shape, which is just going through our
universe.

1137
01:31:39,660 --> 01:31:46,420
So when the single small Julius at
Chiseldon, south of Swindon,

1138
01:31:46,540 --> 01:31:51,220
discovered Friday morning, the second,

1139
01:31:51,460 --> 01:31:56,420
the floor lay is very, very beautiful.

1140
01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:03,700
And the plants you can see are under
here, breaking into this

1141
01:32:03,700 --> 01:32:05,980
circle. It's very intricate.

1142
01:32:07,180 --> 01:32:09,220
And spiraling around clockwise.

1143
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:16,080
And then it leaves over the top once
more.

1144
01:32:18,060 --> 01:32:22,340
Continuing around the circumference of
the initial circle.

1145
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:29,200
And then once it's reached here, right
into the next one.

1146
01:32:29,580 --> 01:32:31,360
And so on.

1147
01:32:32,020 --> 01:32:33,940
Down through the chain.

1148
01:32:50,540 --> 01:32:55,480
In the 17th century, people, when
confronted with these shapes, called

1149
01:32:55,480 --> 01:32:59,760
either fairy rings or mowing devils or
strange markings in the ground. And they

1150
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:05,160
were absolutely convinced it was done by
either the devil or infernal spirit or

1151
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:09,120
witchcraft. Because that was the mindset
of the time.

1152
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:15,020
Anything that was outside the norm was
obvious that it was done by the devil,

1153
01:33:15,140 --> 01:33:16,440
because that's all they could see.

1154
01:33:16,820 --> 01:33:19,100
And it was obvious it was done by
witchcraft.

1155
01:33:19,450 --> 01:33:20,970
because that was the way they saw
things.

1156
01:33:21,290 --> 01:33:27,310
So now, when something out of the
ordinary comes, well, it's obvious that

1157
01:33:27,310 --> 01:33:28,470
hoax, that it's man -made.

1158
01:33:30,830 --> 01:33:36,010
I think hoaxes are indeed part of the
phenomenon in that they keep it a

1159
01:33:36,910 --> 01:33:40,250
That is, it's always possible to say,
oh, I know this or that was done by

1160
01:33:40,250 --> 01:33:41,910
somebody, they're all done by somebody.

1161
01:33:42,310 --> 01:33:45,110
And so people who don't particularly
want to think about it have an easy way

1162
01:33:45,110 --> 01:33:49,090
out. and that every phenomenon should
allow that so people don't it shouldn't

1163
01:33:49,090 --> 01:33:53,890
so challenging and you can't avoid it if
you want to avoid you can say i know

1164
01:33:53,890 --> 01:33:59,790
it's a hoax and get off the subject i
accept that hoaxes exist i don't believe

1165
01:33:59,790 --> 01:34:03,970
every single thing that appears in the
field is a genuine thing but a hoaxing

1166
01:34:03,970 --> 01:34:10,370
doesn't explain the phenomena if hoaxing
offered an answer

1167
01:34:10,370 --> 01:34:16,560
to what goes on in our field year in
year out Then, okay. But it doesn't.

1168
01:34:17,500 --> 01:34:19,440
These things are happening all over the
world.

1169
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:20,900
They're happening all over Britain.

1170
01:34:21,260 --> 01:34:24,360
They've been happening for, what?

1171
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:28,660
Since the late 60s, early 70s. They've
been documented since the 70s. You know,

1172
01:34:28,700 --> 01:34:29,880
you're talking 30 years.

1173
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:31,540
These guys were kids.

1174
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:33,100
Who was doing them then?

1175
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:38,500
We've been having formations for 10
years. Are you telling me that people

1176
01:34:38,500 --> 01:34:41,140
every summer for 10 years?

1177
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:47,660
have been going out night after night
after night creating formations.

1178
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:51,340
I mean, it doesn't make any sense, does
it?

1179
01:34:52,180 --> 01:34:53,440
And where do they practise?

1180
01:34:53,980 --> 01:34:55,120
Where do they practise?

1181
01:34:55,500 --> 01:34:56,600
Where's the practise one?

1182
01:34:57,260 --> 01:35:00,740
You know, they don't practise. There's
never a half -finished one.

1183
01:35:01,540 --> 01:35:02,540
No mistake.

1184
01:35:03,020 --> 01:35:07,020
You know, I mean, it just doesn't...
That doesn't make sense.

1185
01:35:07,480 --> 01:35:10,180
And how do they get away with it? How
are they not caught? How have they done

1186
01:35:10,180 --> 01:35:15,500
it? If anyone said they'd done it, I'd
be very interested to know how it was

1187
01:35:15,500 --> 01:35:16,500
done.

1188
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:21,080
Because I can't at the moment see any
way in which this could be done

1189
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:23,200
by the old stomping out teams.

1190
01:35:26,580 --> 01:35:30,500
And when you get the real masterpieces,
the hoaxes sort of fall away and they

1191
01:35:30,500 --> 01:35:32,920
just stand back in admiration like
everybody else.

1192
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:40,460
And these masterpieces, there's never a
blunder in them.

1193
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,900
Now, something incredibly ambitious and
very elaborate.

1194
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:50,100
And if you find any stupid mistake in
them, it's an unforgiving medium. If you

1195
01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:53,660
fall over in that wheat crop, that
wheat's not going to stand up again

1196
01:35:54,500 --> 01:35:59,260
Saying that people have been going out
for years and years, all over the

1197
01:35:59,260 --> 01:36:02,460
country, all over the world. I mean, how
many people are we talking about?

1198
01:36:03,100 --> 01:36:05,180
And what kind of an obsession have they
got?

1199
01:36:06,660 --> 01:36:08,460
You know, I mean, they go out in rain.

1200
01:36:09,050 --> 01:36:15,470
They go out in all weathers, in crops
like oilseed rape, which stinks, covers

1201
01:36:15,470 --> 01:36:17,690
you in yellow. It's a horrible crop to
be in.

1202
01:36:28,070 --> 01:36:33,790
The lack of being caught, the lack of
blunders, you don't see a half -finished

1203
01:36:33,790 --> 01:36:36,710
masterpiece. As the cock crows, they
will have to pack up tools.

1204
01:36:38,940 --> 01:36:41,920
They all give the impression of being
done in one go.

1205
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:47,760
They're not spot -on accurate, but
they've got a rhythm to them, like an

1206
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:48,760
would do.

1207
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:58,740
But then you look at it from afar, and
when you go on an airplane and you see

1208
01:36:58,740 --> 01:37:03,600
the whole thing, you see that it's
actually not just a splodge in the

1209
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:05,140
it's very specific.

1210
01:37:05,870 --> 01:37:12,250
shape, a design, and it's a symbolic
design, and therefore it has a meaning

1211
01:37:12,250 --> 01:37:14,150
it. It carries an inner meaning.

1212
01:37:14,350 --> 01:37:16,750
It carries a metaphysical.

1213
01:37:17,130 --> 01:37:21,690
It's a metaphysical thing. It tells us
the meaning beyond the physical.

1214
01:37:25,590 --> 01:37:30,770
Each circle is an invitation to look
into the meaning of the symbol, and

1215
01:37:30,770 --> 01:37:34,330
therefore you're made to look at all
these wonderful, wonderful teachings.

1216
01:37:34,970 --> 01:37:36,070
In all directions.

1217
01:37:36,550 --> 01:37:43,510
And suddenly your mind is encompassing
many, many different aspects.

1218
01:37:43,530 --> 01:37:44,970
It has an effect on the person.

1219
01:37:46,290 --> 01:37:50,610
You recover your sense of awe, your
sense of wonder.

1220
01:37:52,010 --> 01:37:56,150
A feeling of awe leads to a feeling of
appreciation, of gratitude.

1221
01:37:56,590 --> 01:38:02,290
You begin to have a feeling of reverence
towards the whole, towards the greater.

1222
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:16,000
These things are footprints of
intelligences, and through the

1223
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:21,700
characteristics of the phenomenon which
come forward each year, we're being

1224
01:38:21,700 --> 01:38:27,320
shown characteristics of the particular
kind of intelligence which these...

1225
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:34,280
Even the word being is... These beings,
even that

1226
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:35,279
is inadequate.

1227
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:38,620
And so we're being given...

1228
01:38:39,440 --> 01:38:46,280
some detailed signs of the nature of
this intelligence, which is undoubtedly

1229
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:52,080
very compassionate and understanding and
also educationally motivated.

1230
01:38:54,300 --> 01:39:01,220
There is something very profound about
the shapes of the crop circles that

1231
01:39:01,220 --> 01:39:02,300
affect consciousness.

1232
01:39:04,140 --> 01:39:09,440
I think there are ways in which we can
interact with our environment that can

1233
01:39:09,440 --> 01:39:14,840
enhance consciousness, and I think crop
circles are part of that. I think that

1234
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:19,080
almost there is a technology behind them
and that that technology is

1235
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:21,440
consciousness -enhancing technology.

1236
01:39:23,180 --> 01:39:25,180
There's a trickster element.

1237
01:39:25,820 --> 01:39:31,420
There's an exceptionally high -level
element too, which involves, for

1238
01:39:31,500 --> 01:39:32,500
complex mathematics.

1239
01:39:33,580 --> 01:39:38,380
and there are multifaceted other
elements which we're only just touching

1240
01:39:38,540 --> 01:39:43,360
but the focus I've been giving, anyway,
has been not so much the formations and

1241
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:48,400
the phenomena, but actually what is the
empty space which these are containing.

1242
01:39:49,550 --> 01:39:56,070
And what is the essence which these are
demonstrating in terms of the effects

1243
01:39:56,070 --> 01:40:02,270
of these mysterious intelligences, which
even from an advanced

1244
01:40:02,270 --> 01:40:06,050
esoteric viewpoint, you can't give a
name to it. You can't say, oh, it's

1245
01:40:06,210 --> 01:40:11,410
oh, it's ETs, oh, it's the past, oh,
it's something else, the collective

1246
01:40:11,410 --> 01:40:16,190
unconscious. You can't... That doesn't
satisfy the question either. We're left

1247
01:40:16,190 --> 01:40:18,910
with this deep pool, this empty...

1248
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:26,220
space into which to fall the question
that you get asked what makes crop

1249
01:40:26,220 --> 01:40:30,040
circles it is a non -question it's an
impossible question because i'm not sure

1250
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:33,580
necessarily that there even is a source
i've got this funny feeling it's some

1251
01:40:33,580 --> 01:40:37,140
weird feedback they're created almost
spontaneously

1252
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:42,620
by the interest in them and yet by
someone... We'll never know. You'll

1253
01:40:42,620 --> 01:40:43,620
to point A.

1254
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:47,700
It's a loop. I bet you if you could, if
you could try and trace it back, you'd

1255
01:40:47,700 --> 01:40:50,940
never get to the answer. You'd just go
round and round and it's almost like

1256
01:40:50,940 --> 01:40:53,900
they're created from nowhere out of
nothing like everything is.

1257
01:40:55,580 --> 01:41:00,000
I'm sure there's a dimensionality to
this which we are just not capable of

1258
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:01,000
seeing at the moment.

1259
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:06,800
It's obviously clear that the circle
makers are going to great trouble to...

1260
01:41:07,450 --> 01:41:12,190
keep these designs coming down and if
you assume that there is some kind of

1261
01:41:12,190 --> 01:41:16,950
in here it's not just nice designs but
there's some sort of code then they're

1262
01:41:16,950 --> 01:41:23,910
obviously putting in a lot of code into
into the system here and if it is

1263
01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:30,830
code which surely it must be in some way
um there's a lot of unraveling to

1264
01:41:30,830 --> 01:41:32,370
be done at some future date

1265
01:41:37,230 --> 01:41:43,810
I think there are myriad communities,
intelligences, civilizations

1266
01:41:43,810 --> 01:41:50,750
up there, and I think it's reasonable to
say that the majority of

1267
01:41:50,750 --> 01:41:57,490
them are fully aware of planet Earth and

1268
01:41:57,490 --> 01:42:04,090
its divinities and miracles and charms
and

1269
01:42:04,090 --> 01:42:06,250
its madnesses and follies.

1270
01:42:06,780 --> 01:42:13,520
I think we're in the early stages of a
process

1271
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:17,400
of universal intercultural mingling.

1272
01:42:17,620 --> 01:42:22,360
The issue is it's got to be done very,
very gradually in homeopathic amounts.

1273
01:42:22,580 --> 01:42:29,360
We actually develop, amongst other
things, a certain immunity to the

1274
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:34,160
destructive influence of incredible
positive energy.

1275
01:42:34,670 --> 01:42:41,370
coming our way when we open up to the
other beings in the

1276
01:42:41,370 --> 01:42:48,150
universe in which we live. I think they
do know that their

1277
01:42:48,150 --> 01:42:55,070
material intervention in tangible terms
would cause such disruption

1278
01:42:55,070 --> 01:43:02,050
to our culture that we would unravel and
fragment very

1279
01:43:02,050 --> 01:43:03,750
quickly and they don't want that.

1280
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:11,540
So I believe this is one reason that
they're playing very gently with us.

1281
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:17,120
And it's certainly a reason why they're
playing

1282
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:23,480
with those groups and individuals who

1283
01:43:23,480 --> 01:43:27,660
wish, who choose, who volunteer to...

1284
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:29,560
come and participate.

1285
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:33,680
I mean, you know, traditionally, what do
we think in our culture?

1286
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:39,240
They go and knock on the door of number
10 Downing Street. They go and visit the

1287
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:41,140
White House. Well, they'd be stupid!

1288
01:43:42,580 --> 01:43:44,840
Do we have to be told that?

1289
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:51,920
I mean, the last way anybody with any
kind of wisdom and

1290
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,620
full historic understanding of...

1291
01:43:55,130 --> 01:44:01,490
the state of planet Earth, the last way
they would attempt to make ameliorative

1292
01:44:01,490 --> 01:44:05,570
changes would be to initiate it at
government level.

1293
01:44:06,470 --> 01:44:08,510
That would be the kiss of death.

1294
01:44:10,370 --> 01:44:11,590
And they do that.

1295
01:44:12,070 --> 01:44:16,970
One of the possible reasons why all this
farce is going on is that they're

1296
01:44:16,970 --> 01:44:17,970
studying us.

1297
01:44:18,709 --> 01:44:23,110
Because, obviously, if you were a god or
an ET or something like that, you would

1298
01:44:23,110 --> 01:44:28,890
be sincerely asking the question, why
can't these humans wake up and stop this

1299
01:44:28,890 --> 01:44:34,610
suicide process they're on? What is it
that causes them to continually make

1300
01:44:34,610 --> 01:44:38,150
difficulty for themselves and kill each
other and cause so much pain?

1301
01:44:38,430 --> 01:44:44,250
And so you could see it as a research
project by these beings to...

1302
01:44:44,750 --> 01:44:51,670
to provoke us with the stimulus of uh
you know just putting

1303
01:44:51,670 --> 01:44:58,590
it in front of us and then to study all
the ways in which we avoid truth

1304
01:44:58,590 --> 01:45:03,030
being put straight in front of our face
you know because they're getting it

1305
01:45:03,030 --> 01:45:06,490
they're getting all these avoidant
strategies blocking strategies

1306
01:45:08,110 --> 01:45:13,790
confusion you know if you were if you
were a cosmic social psychologist it

1307
01:45:13,790 --> 01:45:20,490
be a wonderful uh microscope into the
psyche of humanity and then and if that

1308
01:45:20,490 --> 01:45:24,610
were the only justification for this
phenomenon that itself would be

1309
01:45:24,610 --> 01:45:31,330
i think i think that they've been
looking at us for a long time and

1310
01:45:31,330 --> 01:45:32,650
oh god

1311
01:45:35,370 --> 01:45:41,830
How long do we have to sit back here and
watch these clowns screw

1312
01:45:41,830 --> 01:45:43,190
themselves up?

1313
01:45:44,750 --> 01:45:50,490
At what point are we going to be allowed
to just move in and tickle them and

1314
01:45:50,490 --> 01:45:57,370
persuade them and seduce them forward?
At what point can we break

1315
01:45:57,370 --> 01:45:58,670
this terrible pattern?

1316
01:45:59,290 --> 01:46:03,890
Are we going to watch this beautiful
blue planet

1317
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:07,700
Screw itself up, finally. Do we have to
watch this?

1318
01:46:08,060 --> 01:46:09,380
Can we go in?

1319
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:13,140
And now they're coming in.

1320
01:46:13,440 --> 01:46:19,020
Now, clearly, you know, because we are
who we are, we want

1321
01:46:19,020 --> 01:46:22,020
spaceships on the White House lawn.

1322
01:46:30,340 --> 01:46:32,040
At one point, I think...

1323
01:46:32,250 --> 01:46:36,830
being involved in this I thought I kind
of saw the circle makers as this huge

1324
01:46:36,830 --> 01:46:40,670
intelligence out there that had all the
answers that was trying to teach us

1325
01:46:40,670 --> 01:46:45,630
something truly profound and and in a
way I think that's partially true but

1326
01:46:45,630 --> 01:46:49,410
way I see it now is that kind of we're
playing this game together that there's

1327
01:46:49,410 --> 01:46:55,340
kind of this dance going on and it and
it a mutual exploration of what is

1328
01:46:55,340 --> 01:46:59,300
possible through the relationship that
we have, through the kind of

1329
01:46:59,300 --> 01:47:01,380
communication that we have.

1330
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:06,960
is very strange to us and maybe is very
strange to them as well, who knows? But

1331
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:11,360
I kind of more see it now as not this
kind of all -encompassing intelligence

1332
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:15,180
that has all these answers that they're
trying to teach us, but more of it being

1333
01:47:15,180 --> 01:47:21,160
this wonderful dance of two
intelligences together and just pushing

1334
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:25,760
and the boundaries of what's possible
and exploring together what would be

1335
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:29,380
possible through an interaction or a
communication between the two.

1336
01:47:33,770 --> 01:47:39,610
I know that this is interactive and I
know

1337
01:47:39,610 --> 01:47:45,090
there is a communication and I know that

1338
01:47:45,090 --> 01:47:51,990
I am shown which way to

1339
01:47:51,990 --> 01:47:58,330
go and while on the one hand this might
sound like God speaks through me,

1340
01:47:58,670 --> 01:48:05,580
I don't see it. that way at all and I
know many, many,

1341
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:11,040
many, many, many people in their work
around the crop circles who are

1342
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:17,100
nudges, encouragements, directions,
clues,

1343
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:20,020
hints to draw them forward.

1344
01:48:22,330 --> 01:48:26,630
In the early 90s, we tried a series of
experiments using a psychic channeler,

1345
01:48:26,630 --> 01:48:30,490
just to see what would happen, to take
messages to whatever the circle -making

1346
01:48:30,490 --> 01:48:31,510
forces might be.

1347
01:48:31,830 --> 01:48:35,610
And as soon as we started those
experiments, I mean, I think on the very

1348
01:48:35,610 --> 01:48:40,050
day, we had a big meeting at this
friend's house, in the field closest to

1349
01:48:40,050 --> 01:48:41,050
house as you could get.

1350
01:48:41,490 --> 01:48:44,470
The first formation of the year in our
county appeared.

1351
01:48:45,530 --> 01:48:46,930
And we thought, what are the odds of
that?

1352
01:48:47,150 --> 01:48:51,010
And what we found was that the next
couple of years went on. We all started

1353
01:48:51,010 --> 01:48:52,050
have these synchronicities.

1354
01:48:52,550 --> 01:48:54,490
Three or four of us saw balls of light.

1355
01:48:54,950 --> 01:49:00,250
And eventually this kind of work
culminated. We did an experiment where

1356
01:49:00,250 --> 01:49:04,300
us... meditated up on a hillside and
asked for a crop formation and others

1357
01:49:04,300 --> 01:49:08,220
done this on other occasions too and we
had a certain shape that we thought

1358
01:49:08,220 --> 01:49:12,920
might arise as a result of that and lo
and behold that very night exactly that

1359
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:17,380
design appeared in the fields of Sussex
you know I can't prove that to the

1360
01:49:17,380 --> 01:49:20,560
outside world but we had proved to
ourselves that it was an interactive

1361
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:23,660
phenomenon the more you give towards it
it will give back

1362
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:33,020
For someone who's studying
radionuclides, they will get progression

1363
01:49:33,020 --> 01:49:37,100
study. For someone who's studying
mathematics, they will get progression

1364
01:49:37,100 --> 01:49:40,900
that. For someone who's working
psychologically, they will get

1365
01:49:40,900 --> 01:49:47,820
that. In whatever way we map our
reality, we will get progression

1366
01:49:47,820 --> 01:49:48,880
into it, and...

1367
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:56,700
And no one individual possesses the
answer, although we're all progressing

1368
01:49:56,700 --> 01:50:01,940
clues. Oh, well, you go by, you judge
the intent by what the actual effect is,

1369
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:03,000
don't you?

1370
01:50:03,140 --> 01:50:04,680
If people say, what are crop circles?

1371
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:08,400
If you ask about a person, what sort of
person he is, it says in the Bible, by

1372
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:11,480
their fruits ye shall know them. It's
what they do, not what they say.

1373
01:50:12,060 --> 01:50:15,800
And so to observe, to find what the crop
circles are for, you really have to

1374
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:16,860
observe what they do.

1375
01:50:17,500 --> 01:50:19,360
How they change people and in what
direction.

1376
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:23,860
Are they satanic? No, there's no evil or
harm in them at all, that's all I can

1377
01:50:23,860 --> 01:50:24,880
see. They never hurt anybody.

1378
01:50:25,260 --> 01:50:26,520
They never harmed anybody.

1379
01:50:28,300 --> 01:50:30,020
They've only inspired people.

1380
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:35,300
Some people have been disappointed by
them, or by some aspect of them, but

1381
01:50:35,300 --> 01:50:37,920
that's their own personal business.

1382
01:50:39,140 --> 01:50:40,300
They haven't hurt anybody.

1383
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:41,960
I think...

1384
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:46,920
that the crop circles maybe are
occurring now because there are

1385
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:52,600
huge

1386
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:59,260
universal time cogs about to clonk

1387
01:50:59,260 --> 01:51:05,700
over. And this has been in the stars

1388
01:51:05,700 --> 01:51:07,160
for a long time.

1389
01:51:09,139 --> 01:51:15,700
We've been blissfully, stupidly unaware
of what we were sitting on. But they

1390
01:51:15,700 --> 01:51:16,700
know.

1391
01:51:17,980 --> 01:51:22,360
And I think the crop circles have been
brought now because they have been

1392
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:26,360
saying, these guys are going to miss the
boat.

1393
01:51:27,660 --> 01:51:32,380
This is one of the most exciting things.
They don't know what's going on. How

1394
01:51:32,380 --> 01:51:36,800
can we bring them forward? How can we
open their eyes? How can we open their

1395
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:37,800
hearts?

1396
01:51:38,730 --> 01:51:45,530
And I put my money on the fact that
we'll have contact when

1397
01:51:45,530 --> 01:51:52,310
we are sufficiently grown up and evolved
to be able to accept

1398
01:51:52,310 --> 01:51:58,310
it. And we have a very accelerated
program of learning

1399
01:51:58,310 --> 01:52:04,250
to be able to accept it and to be
integrated into a wider

1400
01:52:04,250 --> 01:52:07,150
and heavenly.

1401
01:52:07,990 --> 01:52:14,990
scheme of things I think we're on the
edge of it I

1402
01:52:14,990 --> 01:52:16,470
speak as an optimist